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August 30, 2007

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Publius

If abortion were rape, wouldn't ordinary run of the mill murder be rape? Would a cop shooting someone in self-defense have committed justifiable defensive rape?

Publius

And do we want to get within even a mile of accepting the concept of justifiable defensive rape?

PeterTerp

Not to be too overly-technical, but one could argue, based on some of the laws I've seen out there, that certain instances of murder would be legally classifiable as rape in a jurisdiction where rape is defined as penetration even with an object. For instance, if a victim were stabbed intentionally, one could argue that victim was raped. I have a hard time imagining the prosecution taking that route, but it's not completely beyond imagination.

Although fictional examples aren't always the best, you might think about the one scene in Saving Private Ryan where the American soldier is stabbed by a German in a protracted scuffle. Spielberg was definitely depicting that murder as a sadistic form of rape.

And don't forget that there is even a class of thrusting sword called the "rapier," although that might be a false cognate.

I don't think the argument as I laid it out above would lend itself toward a concept of "justifiable defensive rape." Your will is not free when you act in self defense. Injury or death to an attacker is accidental to self-preservation. Rape suggests that the perpetrator has imposed his or her will on the victim in the act of penetrating the victim's body without the victim's consent.

If my will were completely free, I would not hurt the attacker, but an attacker limits the freedom of my will by forcing me to choose justifiable actions that I would rather not choose at all. Thus, I am not imposing my will on an attacker. Rather, I am resisting the attacker's attempt to impose their will on me.

I think the next issue someone might raise to my question is what is even the point of classifying abortion as rape...

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