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March 09, 2009

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Akh Ari

I was thrilled to see a movie (a hero-action movie!) that took philosophy, ethics, and morality so seriously. It must have taken some real guts to make a Hollywood movie that sticks up for consistent goodness and sticks it to moral relativism like that. Did you notice the source of the Joker's M.O.? Nietzsche. The clue-in is right in the beginning - "Whatever doesn't kill you makes you 'stranger'." Not a throwaway line.

Remember to pray for Mr. Ledger. Letting Nietzscheism in is not good for one's sanity.

PeterTerp

Just for the sake of being provocative, isn't Batman by nature a bit morally relativistic by nature of the fact that he's a vigilante?
Sure, he refuses to cross certain lines (he won't use a gun and he won't intentionally kill)--but he is breaking the law and even disobeying a just authority on a daily basis.
Batman is something like the lesser of two evils...and that's part of the problem that Gordon has to face. Gordon is supposed to be arresting Batman, but looks the other way.

Batman is, not by accident I'm sure, something like Bram Stoker's depiction of the early Dracula. He's a transgressive force that you accept because he seems better than the alternative. Batman wards off criminals the way Dracula warded off the Ottomans in Eastern Europe. But to accept their vigilance does mean compromising certain other morals and scruples.
Sure, Batman doesn't plan on sucking your blood or eating your babies...but he does step into murky moral areas. Even Morgan Freeman's character feels as though he is compromising his morality by eavesdropping in search of the Joker. Not only is it a breach of privacy -- it's a breach of privacy by a non-government authority.

Akh Ari

Is Sherlock Holmes a vigilante?

You raise a good point about superheroes in general, but a better example would be the 2003 movie Daredevil, where the title character takes it upon himself to beat up crooks.

I submit that a better interpreatation of Batman is a private consulting detective, who from time to time is engaged by the police to handle cases that would be impossible but for his unique powers (and ability to act non-officially on occasion). Like Holmes, he does not sentence criminals or punish them himself - he could, but he has too much respect for the rule of law and love for his country and its institutions. Rather, he tracks them down, confronts them, and subdues them as nonviolently as possible under the circumstances so that they can be arrested by the official police and given a fair trial under the law. This is most evident in the old tv show, but still holds in Dark Knight.

PeterTerp

I certainly agree that he doesn't quite engage in vigilante justice -- he doesn't act as judge, jury, and executioner.
I haven't actually read enough Sherlock Holmes to assess how often he violates domestic and international laws to apprehend criminals, though.

tadert

It is very much like Sherlock Holmes! This is one of my favorite books and movies too ( http://rapid4me.com/?q=Sherlock+Holmes )!

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