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May 19, 2009

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Lindsay

You make a good point. I've always stuck with the idea that the Church is, ultimately, not the same as her people. People sin. People do horrible, stupid things all the time. We try not to, but we can't help it. Yet, despite two thousand years of being run by concupiscent fools like us, the Church remains, and that is the true sign of veracity. Even we can't screw it up forever.

Peter Terp

I received an e-mail nudging me to clarify some sloppy language in the blog post above.
My intention was not to suggest that the Church as such was sinful. Rather, my hastily composed words were supposed to suggest that the members of the Church had collectively erred.
Thus, I essentially was using "the Church" to metonymously refer to the reified body of its members, rather than describe the institution itself.

Hey, even the Fathers had lapses of clarity and orthodoxy on occasion.

This does help to clarify my point, however. In that "the Church" has an existence beyond that of its members. That "the Church" as an institution is self-correcting of the errors that its members commits. Indeed, often the only way of describing the errors, sins, and general evil of its members is through the Church's own moral theology. We often recognize the wrongs and abuses perpetuated by those within the system by using the system itself...which may or may not be the case with certain other religions which seem to actually promote hatred and sin as a matter of faith and deny critique of those same evils as an abuse of that faith.

The Spirit seems to provide evidence of its involvement in the Church by not tolerating the continued abuse of Church authority.

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